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The NO VIRUS position is very simple: there is NO EVIDENCE that a virus (as defined and accepted) - a replication competent particle that spreads between people (contagion) and CAUSES disease EXISTS.

The arguments presented by Kaufman, Cowan, Bailey and Co. are very clear, logical and based on documented scientific studies that go back more than a century. This particle has never been isolated (removed from everything else) from ANY person and therefore does NOT spread and therefore cannot CAUSE disease. 

They do not seek to explain all the many mechanisms by which people become ill, they are simply stating a fact - there is NO EVIDENCE of a virus as per its accepted definition.

When a model such as the virus/germ theory, does not fulfill ALL of the evidence, then it should be denounced and a new model/theory that better suits, should be proposed. This is the only way we will be able to realise what actually CAUSES disease. 

Members of the HART group: At the end of the day isn’t that what we all want? 

By continuing with a unproven ‘best fit’ model we will never get to the truth.

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Amen. I second that.

I must add that even the mainstream concept of what is a "disease" is in question. As it is mostly based on the premise that the body is being attacked by some microorganism, which is unproven.

Cheers

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Agreed! As is the belief that bacteria is the cause of illness, when they are simply the cleanup crew. I’m with you all the way!

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I'll go even further...

My current perspective (understanding) is that the human body is almost entirely in symbiosis with colonies of bacteria (from our mouth to our anus, all over our skin, hair). Participating in a circle of life.

Just as the mind and the physical body are indivisible, the body/mind and bacterias are unseparable. And it seems like "nobody" [of the three] is ever in full control. And this idea of sharing our body with microorganism defies our belief in our [illusionary] freedom, our supremacy over the living nature. A big slap to the resisting egos.

There always more than what meets the eyes.

Just my little grain of salt, cheers.

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My take on it, is that our bodies are always trying to reach balance - so yes symbiosis all the way and yes, these bacteria (in all their different forms) plus water make us who we are physically, mentally and spiritually, so yes, the same as what you’re saying. Everyday a new piece of the puzzle of life is solved.

Cheers and thanks for the support!

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Thank you for the dialogue :)

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