Wouldn't people reading this want to know the names of those nurses and GPs and whichever personnel who participated in this atrocity? Shouldn't they be named?
As a Paramedic I can say the GP's were completely absent during this period. Whilst quivering under their desks in fear they bravely volunteered us to go and 'check out' the patients in the care homes.
Shameful! The state as arbiter of life and death and to what end? Control, total control of the people. The UK has all the hallmarks of a fascist state, masquerading as a concerned state. And now it's the total surveillance state. Shameful!
William how is that going to correct what has happened? Most of the people signing up were screaming for more masks and lockdown and had they known the treatment protocol in place
Do you have evidence to back up your claim? And don’t forget, the state mounted a vast propaganda assault on us that convinced many of us that death was imminent if we didn’t mask up.
So I take it that you trust the Guardian's reportage? I suggest that today, a lot of people are very skeptical, not only about the propaganda of the time but are rejecting the boosters, take up as dropped to an all-time low, not only here but across Europe. You can fool people some of the time but not all of the people, all of the time.
Let me tell you this continued into 2023. Ex m-i-l admitted to hospital after fall out of bed. Yes, she had dementia and was 81. She laughed and joked on her way there. An x-ray revealed a hairline crack on her pelvis. Googling treatment, it says bed rest and pain relief, if needed. However, they said she'd be admitted and op done but only after testing and, of course, it was positive! This then prohibited any family accompanying her to the ward and seeing her for 10 days. She did not have any so called covid symptoms. After 10 days, her son found her to be drugged up, dirty, and after coming round a bit, she stated how thirsty and hungry she was. He complained to the nurses about her neglect and they didn't care. She went on to aquire double pneumonia, what type I don't know. The family found a hospice place for her where she was better cared for until her death a few days later. I've no idea if she was operated on or just left in bed sedated on Liverpool pathway. Also, 12 months later, her husband had a fall, hospitalised, and died of heart failure, although no mention of this a few weeks earlier after receiving a new pacemaker. The family are oblivious to what's been/is happening.
This is how the Measles deaths were caused in the Texan hospitals recently. They had identified the bacteria but isolated the child, put them on nil-by-mouth to dehydrate them and withheld the antibiotics to let the pneumonia get worse. The poor child had a complication that happens from any virus, it was not measles that killed her, but it was reported as a measles death. If she'd had the antibiotics immediately she would have been expected to survive.
Vics it used to be said that ,in cases of measles, prophylactic antibiotics wouldn't prevent chest infections but surely where pneumonia is identified they should get the "kitchen sink" ie everything.
I am referring specifically to two children who died a few months ago of measles complications in Texas. The local media reported that they died ‘of’ measles, but their medical notes show a catalogue of poor care by the hospital that admitted them. The first girl clearly needed specific antibiotics (normally two different ones would be given together for the bugs she tested positive for) but none were given at all, and then after 10 hours, by which time she was extremely poorly, they gave her the wrong antibiotic and she died.
Can't answer that as not from UK. Also not from US but read US hospitals were paid to follow "death" protocols like unnecessary ventilation and use of Remdesivir.
I am unaware of what Hart covered in Parts 1 & 2 regarding casualties of the Covid response but if we include the figurative sense of "casualties" we should look at the response' impact on children's mental health and learning. The following article, though it contains some gaps, sums up the evidence to date https://cepr.harvard.edu/news/k-12-pandemic-disruption-five-years-and-counting. I'd like to stress that this in no way diminishes the importance of the contents of Part 3 I just think it is worth mentioning within the same framework of discussion.
I have a loved one in a care home at the moment. At times there is a lot of drama because the residents are often and easily confused and scared because of their conditions. During the pandemic the poor staff had to wear all that ridiculous PPE which would have terrified the residents, made it impossible to be understood, and created even more confusion. There would also have been staff shortages from the isolation requirements and more staff doing overtime to help keep staffing levels up, so they would have been tired AND having to do a crazy job wearing all that awful kit.
The PPE created the 'need' for the sedatives, and I can well believe that sedating residents was the only way the staff could cope.
As if the PPE wasn't bad enough, they then also went too far with these DNR orders and administered drugs that are too strong for frail elderly people.
Whilst I agree that the DNRs and all the madness during Covid was unnecessary negligence and possibly worse in many instances, I also think you are conflating two things here.
Assisted suicide is very different to unsolicited euthanasia which is what was going on during Covid. You seem to be concerned about coercion if we have another period of madness? But to gain agreement for assisted suicide you have to go through a long process. Now yes, that could be subject to some kind of emergency acceleration law so that if you have been given 6 months or less to live, they could just put you on a DNR or a palliative care pathway, finishing you off a few months early. The people with an imminent and terminal diagnosis will have been put on the DNRs and palliative care pathways anyway. I can't see assisted dying making the unsolicited euthanasia that much easier or more prevalent.
The whole point with assisted suicide is that people's lives are hell and they want a way out. It is easy to see how easily people are neglected and why they may want an assisted suicide.
The way to avoid a repeat of the covid madness is not to stop assisted dying, it's to take steps to stop another pandemic - a global ban on Gain of Function research and replace the WHO with a fully accountable organisation.
Yes, and it was easy for people to be euthanised against their will, assisted suicide pathways weren’t necessary. They didn’t need to make someone sign papers pretending they had asked for it, they did it anyway without their consent. The easiest mechanism was already in place and used. I can’t see assisted suicide making things any easier to euthanise people, although in a future scenario, people wanting AS who are being refused it, may find they get it in another pandemic… but is that really a bad thing? AS is fundamentally different to unsolicited euthanasia
Wouldn't people reading this want to know the names of those nurses and GPs and whichever personnel who participated in this atrocity? Shouldn't they be named?
As a Paramedic I can say the GP's were completely absent during this period. Whilst quivering under their desks in fear they bravely volunteered us to go and 'check out' the patients in the care homes.
Heaven forbid they put themselves in any danger.
It doesn’t say much about the inherent intelligence of qualified doctors at all which is frightening
These were not dental anxiety doses of midazolam! The dose makes the poison.
Shameful! The state as arbiter of life and death and to what end? Control, total control of the people. The UK has all the hallmarks of a fascist state, masquerading as a concerned state. And now it's the total surveillance state. Shameful!
Unfortunately, William, the majority haven't a clue, seem not to care, and those that do care can't do anything.
I’m not sure that’s true, 600,000 have signed up to Corbyn’s new party, a sign that people want real change
William how is that going to correct what has happened? Most of the people signing up were screaming for more masks and lockdown and had they known the treatment protocol in place
Do you have evidence to back up your claim? And don’t forget, the state mounted a vast propaganda assault on us that convinced many of us that death was imminent if we didn’t mask up.
I can't be certain but their reading of the Guardian ,as most will do, would suggest they fully subscribed to the guidance in place and more.
So I take it that you trust the Guardian's reportage? I suggest that today, a lot of people are very skeptical, not only about the propaganda of the time but are rejecting the boosters, take up as dropped to an all-time low, not only here but across Europe. You can fool people some of the time but not all of the people, all of the time.
Thought we were on the same wavelength!
What malkes you think we aren't?
They were following the WEF human depopulation orders from Insane Uncle Klaus
Let me tell you this continued into 2023. Ex m-i-l admitted to hospital after fall out of bed. Yes, she had dementia and was 81. She laughed and joked on her way there. An x-ray revealed a hairline crack on her pelvis. Googling treatment, it says bed rest and pain relief, if needed. However, they said she'd be admitted and op done but only after testing and, of course, it was positive! This then prohibited any family accompanying her to the ward and seeing her for 10 days. She did not have any so called covid symptoms. After 10 days, her son found her to be drugged up, dirty, and after coming round a bit, she stated how thirsty and hungry she was. He complained to the nurses about her neglect and they didn't care. She went on to aquire double pneumonia, what type I don't know. The family found a hospice place for her where she was better cared for until her death a few days later. I've no idea if she was operated on or just left in bed sedated on Liverpool pathway. Also, 12 months later, her husband had a fall, hospitalised, and died of heart failure, although no mention of this a few weeks earlier after receiving a new pacemaker. The family are oblivious to what's been/is happening.
Truly disturbing
Speechless but I'd had clues over the last few years. I also understand that antibiotics were withheld in cases of pneumonia. Who wrote the protocols?
This is how the Measles deaths were caused in the Texan hospitals recently. They had identified the bacteria but isolated the child, put them on nil-by-mouth to dehydrate them and withheld the antibiotics to let the pneumonia get worse. The poor child had a complication that happens from any virus, it was not measles that killed her, but it was reported as a measles death. If she'd had the antibiotics immediately she would have been expected to survive.
Vics it used to be said that ,in cases of measles, prophylactic antibiotics wouldn't prevent chest infections but surely where pneumonia is identified they should get the "kitchen sink" ie everything.
I am referring specifically to two children who died a few months ago of measles complications in Texas. The local media reported that they died ‘of’ measles, but their medical notes show a catalogue of poor care by the hospital that admitted them. The first girl clearly needed specific antibiotics (normally two different ones would be given together for the bugs she tested positive for) but none were given at all, and then after 10 hours, by which time she was extremely poorly, they gave her the wrong antibiotic and she died.
Can't answer that as not from UK. Also not from US but read US hospitals were paid to follow "death" protocols like unnecessary ventilation and use of Remdesivir.
I am unaware of what Hart covered in Parts 1 & 2 regarding casualties of the Covid response but if we include the figurative sense of "casualties" we should look at the response' impact on children's mental health and learning. The following article, though it contains some gaps, sums up the evidence to date https://cepr.harvard.edu/news/k-12-pandemic-disruption-five-years-and-counting. I'd like to stress that this in no way diminishes the importance of the contents of Part 3 I just think it is worth mentioning within the same framework of discussion.
Are they still doing boosters? Who is receiving them? Any data on how many people are getting them??
Going forward, such treatment is to be expected in hospitals, hospices and aged care facilities. It'd be naïve to expect otherwise.
I have a loved one in a care home at the moment. At times there is a lot of drama because the residents are often and easily confused and scared because of their conditions. During the pandemic the poor staff had to wear all that ridiculous PPE which would have terrified the residents, made it impossible to be understood, and created even more confusion. There would also have been staff shortages from the isolation requirements and more staff doing overtime to help keep staffing levels up, so they would have been tired AND having to do a crazy job wearing all that awful kit.
The PPE created the 'need' for the sedatives, and I can well believe that sedating residents was the only way the staff could cope.
As if the PPE wasn't bad enough, they then also went too far with these DNR orders and administered drugs that are too strong for frail elderly people.
Whilst I agree that the DNRs and all the madness during Covid was unnecessary negligence and possibly worse in many instances, I also think you are conflating two things here.
Assisted suicide is very different to unsolicited euthanasia which is what was going on during Covid. You seem to be concerned about coercion if we have another period of madness? But to gain agreement for assisted suicide you have to go through a long process. Now yes, that could be subject to some kind of emergency acceleration law so that if you have been given 6 months or less to live, they could just put you on a DNR or a palliative care pathway, finishing you off a few months early. The people with an imminent and terminal diagnosis will have been put on the DNRs and palliative care pathways anyway. I can't see assisted dying making the unsolicited euthanasia that much easier or more prevalent.
The whole point with assisted suicide is that people's lives are hell and they want a way out. It is easy to see how easily people are neglected and why they may want an assisted suicide.
The way to avoid a repeat of the covid madness is not to stop assisted dying, it's to take steps to stop another pandemic - a global ban on Gain of Function research and replace the WHO with a fully accountable organisation.
Hospital, hospice & care home staff were effectively doing euthanasia when administering Midazolam, etc.
Yes, and it was easy for people to be euthanised against their will, assisted suicide pathways weren’t necessary. They didn’t need to make someone sign papers pretending they had asked for it, they did it anyway without their consent. The easiest mechanism was already in place and used. I can’t see assisted suicide making things any easier to euthanise people, although in a future scenario, people wanting AS who are being refused it, may find they get it in another pandemic… but is that really a bad thing? AS is fundamentally different to unsolicited euthanasia